Oh yeah one more thought, it could be your radiator cap might be jus
gettin old and wore and may need to be replaced. I had a buddy who had
overheating problems and coolant loss problems to. And it all came
down to his radiator cap. One more place to look is on the most bottom
part of your radiator. Where the lil fins part meet up with the bottom
part. Jus pop ur hood and look down towards the bottom of ur radiator.
Look for any coolant . Sometimes radiators get lil pin hole leaks that
very slowly let coolant seep out and over time a pint could easily be
lost.

On May 5, 3:36*am, Backwoodz Tuner <joezl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You guys make me ****in laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But
> back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant
> on the ground where you park ur car , like overnight? If so does it
> seem to be becoming from tje drivers side of the motor? If so your
> water pump is goin out. It will all most look as if it were comin from
> the plastic timimg belt cover piece. When the bearing goes out in em
> they got these little holes, called weep holes that leak out coolant
> when they start to go bad. And if it were your head gasket you
> wouldn't have as good gas milage as you claim so I'd rule that idea
> out. Another way to check if it's your head gasket would be to look
> under your radiator cap. Does it look like chocalate milk? If not then
> ur gaskets all good. But here's the best advice I can give you. Hit up
> my websitehttp://joezlife.googlepages.com/backwoodztuner
> Go to the manual section and download ur self an owners manual for
> your car. Not no piece of shit chiltons or haynes but a Factory
> Service Manual specific for ur car. The best trouble shooting guides
> are found within them pages and will point u in the right direction.
> And now you don't gotta argue with dude who thinks he knows hondas
> lol! Good luck hope this helps u out
> *I hope my answer wasn't as generic as the rest.
> Haahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaa

I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was
pretty close to unreadable.

On May 5, 2:44*am, Backwoodz Tuner <joezl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh yeah one more thought, it could be your radiator cap might be jus
> gettin old and wore and may need to be replaced. I had a buddy who had
> overheating problems and coolant loss problems to. And it all came
> down to his radiator cap. One more place to look is on the most bottom
> part of your radiator. Where the lil fins part meet up with the bottom
> part. Jus pop ur hood and look down towards the bottom of ur radiator.
> Look for any coolant . Sometimes radiators get lil pin hole leaks that
> very slowly let coolant seep out and over time a pint could easily be
> lost.

THANKS !!! Your suggestions as to where to zero in on are greatly
appreciated !!

Your site is great, too. I already have an authentic Honda manual
(yes, Haynes and Chilton are fire-starting material at best).

Backwoodz Tuner wrote:
> You guys make me ****in laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But
> back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant
> on the ground where you park ur car , like overnight? If so does it
> seem to be becoming from tje drivers side of the motor? If so your
> water pump is goin out. It will all most look as if it were comin from
> the plastic timimg belt cover piece. When the bearing goes out in em
> they got these little holes, called weep holes that leak out coolant
> when they start to go bad. And if it were your head gasket you
> wouldn't have as good gas milage as you claim so I'd rule that idea
> out. Another way to check if it's your head gasket would be to look
> under your radiator cap. Does it look like chocalate milk? If not then
> ur gaskets all good.

rubbish. that may work for detroit, but not hondas - honda head gaskets
typically just blow gas. if it's a slow leak, you may need coolant
analysis. if fast, you'll see bubbles in the expansion reservoir.


> But here's the best advice I can give you. Hit up
> my website http://joezlife.googlepages.com/backwoodztuner
> Go to the manual section and download ur self an owners manual for
> your car. Not no piece of shit chiltons or haynes but a Factory
> Service Manual specific for ur car. The best trouble shooting guides
> are found within them pages and will point u in the right direction.
> And now you don't gotta argue with dude who thinks he knows hondas
> lol! Good luck hope this helps u out
> I hope my answer wasn't as generic as the rest.
> Haahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaa

On May 5, 8:58*am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Backwoodz Tuner wrote:
> > You guys make me ****in laugh , this thread is off the hook! Lol. But
> > back on topic. Loosin some coolant, well is there any sign of coolant
> > on the ground where you park ur car , like overnight? If so does it
> > seem to be becoming from tje drivers side of the motor? If so your
> > water pump is goin out. It will all most look as if it were comin from
> > the plastic timimg belt cover piece. When the bearing goes out in em
> > they got these little holes, called weep holes that leak out coolant
> > when they start to go bad. And if it were your head gasket you
> > wouldn't have as good gas milage as you claim so I'd rule that idea
> > out. Another way to check if it's your head gasket would be to look
> > under your radiator cap. Does it look like chocalate milk? If not then
> > ur gaskets all good.
>
> rubbish. *that may work for detroit, but not hondas - honda head gaskets
> typically just blow gas. *if it's a slow leak, you may need coolant
> analysis. *if fast, you'll see bubbles in the expansion reservoir.
>
Come on now, the guy is a bonafide "tuner". I bet he's got some expert
advice on cold air intakes and undercar neon tubes.

"septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in news:9c39c643-
f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:

> On May 4, 10:49*am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG
>> > highway.
>>
>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to
>> > the radiator and the reservoir.
>>
>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? *I
>> > would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar
>> > with this engine and this year or series.
>>
>> > Thanks in advance !
>>
>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>
>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses, radiator,
>> coolant pump, etc.
>>
>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. *if yes, it's head gasket.
>
>
> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to diagnose
> coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post? I am not
> looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those particularly
> experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can cite the exact
> locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered. This is the
> purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly involved with Hondas
> to share their experiences with other Honda owners, etc.




If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one. The
'92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak locations than
any other Honda model or engine.

The usual suspects are
1) corroded/fractured rad
2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
5) leaking head gasket

If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on the
block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling system
UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion chamber
pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> news:9c39c643-
> f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:
>
>> On May 4, 10:49*am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>> > MPG highway.
>>>
>>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>
>>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>> > *I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>
>>> > Thanks in advance !
>>>
>>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>>
>>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>
>>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. *if yes, it's head
>>> gasket.
>>
>>
>> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>> owners, etc.
>
>
>
>
> If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
> The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
> locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>
> The usual suspects are
> 1) corroded/fractured rad
> 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
> 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
> 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
> 5) leaking head gasket
>
> If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
> the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
> system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
> chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>

anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

On 6 May 2008 11:42:36 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

>Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>> news:9c39c643-
>> f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:
>>
>>> On May 4, 10:49*am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>>> > MPG highway.
>>>>
>>>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>>
>>>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>>> > *I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks in advance !
>>>>
>>>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>>>
>>>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. *if yes, it's head
>>>> gasket.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>>> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>>> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>>> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>>> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>>> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>>> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>>> owners, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
>> The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
>> locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>>
>> The usual suspects are
>> 1) corroded/fractured rad
>> 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
>> 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
>> 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
>> 5) leaking head gasket
>>
>> If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
>> the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
>> system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
>> chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>>
>
>anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.

Big stretch

Jim Yanik wrote:
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>
>>"septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>>news:9c39c643-
>>f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>>On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>>>>MPG highway.
>>>>
>>>>>Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>>>>each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>>
>>>>>Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>>>> I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>>>>familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance !
>>>>
>>>>1. learn to cross-post.
>>>>
>>>>2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>>>radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>>
>>>>3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
>>>>gasket.
>>>
>>>
>>>Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>>>diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>>>I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>>>particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>>>cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>>>This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>>>involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>>>owners, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
>>The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
>>locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>>
>>The usual suspects are
>>1) corroded/fractured rad
>>2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
>>3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
>>4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
>>5) leaking head gasket
>>
>>If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
>>the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
>>system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
>>chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>>
>
>
> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>

Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.

My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that it
has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.

Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...

JT

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:M91Uj.298799$cQ1.176005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:

>>>
>>
>>
>> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>>
>
> Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
> the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
> that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.
>
> My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
> includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that
> it has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.
>
> Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...
>


Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/